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Re:[BUG] Cant get miniMIZE to work - 2005/09/18 12:06 Good news. I was running miniMIZE manually until I read your last reply and decided to add it to my Startup folder. IT WORKS!!!!!

I suppose it should also be working manually too. I would have thought that starting Windows in Diagnostic Mode would have removed any conflicts between the programs I normally run such as Anti Virus, Firewall, etc.

But even though these programs didn't appear in my Tray or didn't show up as a running Process or Service maybe some dll or driver is still 'out there'. Like I already mentioned Safe Mode allowed me to run miniMIZE manually.

So where do you want to take things now? Are you still interested in finding out what on my system is causing this? I'll be more than happy to assist you if you want.

btw... Is the app supposed to be on the Taskbar even though it appears on the desktop? If so, could removing it from the Taskbar be a future option?

Oh, one more thing... How about a single click option to restore the app from the desktop. I am configured to use single click in Windows so I would like the consistency.
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Re:[BUG] Cant get minimize to work - 2005/09/18 12:15 Just wanted to add this. I started minimize from both my Startup Folder and by using the option within minimize itself which starts it from the RUN key in the Registry.

I believe the RUN key stuff gets executed first then the Startup Folder getting executed last. Anyways... both methods worked.

This problem has really piqued my interest.
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Re:[BUG] Cant get minimize to work - 2005/09/18 23:54 Gary, I'm glad you got it working, that's great

However I do want to try and figure out what went wrong. I don't understand why you had so much trouble getting it to work. Have you changed anything else on your system other than moving miniMIZE to the startup folder, or setting it to startup automatically?
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Re:[BUG] Cant get minimize to work - 2005/09/19 00:39 Arul, you seem to be having the same odd behaviour as Gary. I'm still not sure exactly what is going on. Perhaps you could try a similar course, i.e. see if you can get miniMIZE to work in safe mode.

I have tested miniMIZE with Ultramon and that doesn't seem to be an issue.
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Re:[BUG] Cant get minimize to work - 2005/09/19 06:24 illumination wrote:
Gary, I'm glad you got it working, that's great

However I do want to try and figure out what went wrong. I don't understand why you had so much trouble getting it to work. Have you changed anything else on your system other than moving miniMIZE to the startup folder, or setting it to startup automatically?


No changes were made to my system at all. miniMize worked both from my Startup folder and by using the miniMIZE option to load it with windows (via RUN key).

It looks like there is a conflict with something on my system. Whatever it is it is in place when I start minimize manually. When it is started via the RUN key or Startup folder whatever is in conflict hasn't probably fully initialized yet therefore miniMIZE works fine.

I did some research into how things get loaded into Windows. There really is no guarantee in what order a program will start and finish within any of the run locations. Even if a program is the first thing to start it may not be fully initialized when the last program is run. The next program on the run list doesn't wait for the previous program to fully initialize before executing.

Even having miniMIZE in the Startup folder, which is the last place things get loaded from, doesn't mean that previous programs are fully initialized.

There also appears to be other things that get loaded into Windows besides things on the various load lists. Drivers for instance in the Windows Drivers folder. Even though running in Diagnostic Mode, where only basic things are loaded, it is possible that some drivers are still loaded even though the program is not.

If it is the hook that is in conflict maybe understanding what it does could point me to a program/driver whatever on my system that might be the culprit.
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Re:[BUG] Cant get minimize to work - 2005/09/20 22:53 Hi,
I tried the different start modes, but nothing happened. I also excluded the app in Hydra and Ultramon. I will try in safe mode and let you know what happens
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